Law 22 is all about knowing when to surrender and lose a battle so that you may live to fight another day. There is no benefit to being obliterated to prove a point.

How does one reconcile a personal code with the act of giving up?  Jon and Dre ponder on the confirmation bias and fetishisation of Hero/Martyr success stories and the difference between upholding what is right and letting it survive so that it may actually become what is possible.



At the next project or team meeting hold back from shooting down and fighting another person’s idea even if (in fact especially so) if its terrible. Instead give in in spite of your instincts and observe what happens.


This Episode includes:

  • Bernie Sanders’ surrender to Hillary Clinton whilst retaining the power to continue the fight for the progressive agenda
  • Whether subversive anti-establishment humour more of a tool to maintain your own morale than an actual form of resistance
  • The legend of how Ju-Jitsu arose from the observations of Shirobei Akiyama witnessed how the branches of most trees broke during a blizzard, while the more elastic branches of the willow bent and efficiently freed themselves from the snow.

Mentioned in the Episode:

  • Derren Brown’s [easyazon_link identifier=”1905026358″ locale=”US” tag=”vointhda-20″]Tricks of the Mind[/easyazon_link]
  • Our visit and interview at Peter Sage‘s home in Leicester
  • The captivating olfactory memory triggering in the movie Ratatouille
  • The transgression of Law 22 of the titular character in the movie Trumbo with Brian Cranston
  • Hitler’s failure to not buy into his own myth as outlined in the [easyazon_link identifier=”0143112783″ locale=”US” tag=”vointhda-20″]33 Strategies of War[/easyazon_link]
  • The alternation of Vampire and Zombies as the box office draw based on whether Democrats or Republicans are in power as outline by Cracked
  • What We Do In The Shadows the offbeat Taika Waititi Vampire Comedy
  • Mr Rogers and his fear of not understanding another human being (from Tim Ferriss’ podcast not Joe Rogan as Dre mentioned)
  • Our new friends the great podcast Diapers Off and their thoughts on personality/identity  vs issue based politics


Join us as we continue our 48 Laws of Power review, exploring Robert Greene’s provocative and compelling book, in which he lays bare the history, practice, psychology, and philosophies of power that ultimately shape all human relations. Often seen as a handbook for the ‘modern Machiavelli’, we take a closer look, beyond the hyperbole, and discuss how understanding and implementing these Laws can actually enrich your life personally, professionally and spiritually.

Jon and Dre aim to get to the heart of each of the Laws, grapple with their sometimes disturbingly amoral nature, and discuss what the Laws mean in everyday life (often revealing their own experiences – good and bad – when they’ve either observed or transgressed them).


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