Recorded during a massive thunderstorm over London (in mid-summer, of course), Jon and Dre dive into what Voices in the Dark is all about; why we’re exploring The 48 Laws of Power; what our other shows are going to be… and who the hell are we, anyway?

In a nutshell, we’re ‘just’ exploring the human condition: what it is to be a human beings and the problems we face both as individuals and as a society.

In the process we talk about Dre’s journey from severe autism to learning how ‘to people’ and Jon’s struggles to overcome depression and rock-bottom self-esteem.

We also introduce Jon’s solo interview-conversation show, Talking the Walk, which you’ll find in your Voices in the Dark stream when you subscribe! Check out the first episode here, with the editor of High Existence, Martijn Schirp.

In This Episode:

  • How society conditions us to follow ‘the rules’… but the rules are lies
  • Our experiences of living in different cultures (of power) – Italy, New Zealand, the USA, Russia, Ukraine and elsewhere
  • What drew us to Robert Greene’s works? How have they helped us deal with autism and depression?
  • The world of ‘pickup’ and what it really means to seduce people
  • If you were a children’s toy, what would you be?
  • On not hugging autistic people… or Jon
  • The real and harmful effects of not losing your virginity early
  • The complexities (or not) of consent
  • The dance of seduction and why we all, ultimately, want to join in
  • What does ‘Voices in the Dark’ mean to us?

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